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Last Friday, another week of (void) started with a minor discussion on guns (Robert Jones on how firing in a range made him more aware of how bad guns were when trained on people, although Thomas Fini Hansen's experiences were somewhat different. Jo Walsh planned a 1e9 party, although rick wondered how much of a party atmosphere there'd be (ably refuted by Steve Mynott). Ade made Macs buzzy. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045087.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045089.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045125.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045135.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045098.html Meanwhile, a discussion on the correlation between small towns and music was sparked by Mike Jarvis, argued against by Chris Devers, while duncan mentioned Londoners Bush, and Ashley Pomeroy and Simon Wistow listed many, many Liverpool bands, including Frankie Goes To Hollywood, half of whom Isabelle Whitman seems to have met in this bar... http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045100.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045104.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045107.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045115.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045168.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045130.html In what now seems like a relic of a kinder, gentler age, Mike Jarvis continued the thread on guns in the US, and concealed weapon permits (CCWs), asking why the Veep should be happier if people didn't have guns; this reminded Simon Kinahan of signs at an airport about checking in weapons as hold baggage. Robert Shiels wasn't allowed to take tear gas on planes, and John McDonnell talked about his Leatherman and whether or not it needed to be checked; as ever Simon Wistow had a story to tell. Chris Devers rounded it out with good, if sadly outdated, advice, before a deja-(void) discussion on knife laws. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045144.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045146.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045179.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045183.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045184.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045218.html Chris Devers told us how to make t-shirts, while Daynal wondered how to make whizzy DHTML stuff like www.weather.com; Niklas Nordebo and Todd Larason made the most informative replies, while the thread degenrated to HTTP pedantry which tailed over the weekend after Phil Gregory quoted Fast Show memes. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045159.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045160.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045165.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045164.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010903/045166.html Ashley Pomeroy complained about black phone boxes; Ian Malpass wondered about red police cars, and Steve Mynott and Chris Heathcote explained it all. Ashley then popped back to ponder on cars that were ambulances, and Simon Batistoni and Niklas Nordebo expanded on where you can find armed British policemen. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045201.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045202.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045208.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045210.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045211.html Simon Wistow asked about MP3 and Minidisc convergence; rick gave a linkburst, and (later) Todd Larason recommended the PJB100, as did John Melesky. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045244.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045246.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045393.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045397.html Ashley Pomeroy was the first to post about the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks, the subject that dominated the rest of the week. In marked contrast to most of the lists I'm on, (void) was very busy, initially reflecting the news, before moving on to analysis of it. Chris Devers posted a great deal; his initial haikuesque response is perhaps the best post that afternoon. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045251.html Ian Malpass was one of the first to analyse, coming up with what became the standard interpretation; Ashley talked about the WTC and Simon Batistoni had the personal brought home to him via mailing list. Robert Jones brought Daynal up to date. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045271.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045306.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045313.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045322.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045346.html Victoria McDonnell's post was argued against by many; John Melesky gave a short reply; Todd Larason worried about civil liberties, and, despite the fact Chris Devers didn't like it, he thought the US was going to war. Aaron Trevena argued against fighting terror by force. Isabelle Whitman replied to Robert Jones with a oneliner. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045303.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045308.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045308.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045331.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045343.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045358.html The (void) capability for conspiracy theory was ably tested by Simon Wistow, who made a devil's advocacy for an Isreali setup. Matt Jones also mentioned this, as well as getting in a lot of trouble for his comments on 'real tragedy'; Simon Kinahan commented on Mossad's expertise, while Ian Malpass and Lee Maguire took exception. Matt later explained his points in a slightly more temperate manner, as did Ian. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045369.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045406.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045408.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045422.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045542.html Todd Larason sent us a parable, and later a forward: http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045412.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045647.html Colin Forbes, Daynal and Mike Jarvis had a rapid, fairly amusing evolutionary exchange. There was also a discussion on the relationship between Palestine and Israel, from Chris Devers, Todd Larason, Patrick Nordebo and Harl. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045482.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045483.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045484.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045458.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045476.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045488.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045496.html The Nostradumus meme made it through to the list (forwarded by Simon Wistow), where it was demolished in short order by Ashley, Alex Robinson and Lee Maguire. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045522.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045527.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045530.html http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045532.html Some other topics that threaded through the discussion were on the veracity of flight sims (there was no consensus, but it seems they'd be of some help at least; see Randal's post); how the towers collapsed (Simon Wistow produced a good link to Salon on this subject) and reflections on the Israeli talking heads used by the BBC and others. http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045570.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/11/collapse_background/ http://slab.org/mailman/private/void/Week-of-Mon-20010910/045641.html Links of the week; well, photography again, a site relaunch, a walk and some food. http://www.broken-keyboard.com/road_trip_pictures/ - Collin Forbes http://www.ashleypomeroy.com/3200.html - Arp http://www.vx-labs.org/search/search.cgi?terms=sex - Ade http://www.indecorous.com/alph/number_70.html - Ian Malpass http://www.fabulousfoods.com/recipes/dessert/cakes/kittylittercake.html - Matt Jones |