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   / /_   _____ (_) __| \ \   ___ _   _ _ __ ___  _ __ ___   __ _ _ __ _   _ 
  | |\ \ / / _ \| |/ _` || | / __| | | | '_ ` _ \| '_ ` _ \ / _` | '__| | | |
  | | \ V / (_) | | (_| || | \__ \ |_| | | | | | | | | | | | (_| | |  | |_| |
  | |  \_/ \___/|_|\__,_|| | |___/\__,_|_| |_| |_|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_|   \__, |
   \_\                  /_/                                            |___/ 
 
	

(void) summary hurty claw 2001-10-05 Pizza, peeking and pulses

(void) summary hurty knee 2001-09-28 Sex, death, busyness, speeches, fragments

(void) summary hurty shoe 2001-09-21 Music (old, grey and bad), more politics

(void) summary hurty buns 2001-09-14 That cultural event and foreshadowing

(void) summary wordy 2001-09-07 Feeling cultured, Macintosh passions, hi-tech stats

(void) summary in the summertime 2001-08-31 Books, hypnosis, falling Romans and uptime

(void) summary nathan-hate 2001-08-24 Dick size wars, window managers and oddball scientists

(void) summary smutty heaven 2001-08-17 Commercials, wild cheese, bouncy and layering

(void) summary bent? he fix 2001-08-10 Gay test, Nethack, babies and exposure

(void) summary when arrive 2001-08-03 Rough notes, controversy and lateness

(void) summary plentyful 2001-07-27 Tomorrow's World, porn and prostitution

(void) summary plenty free 2001-07-20 Number stations, more guns and scaffolding

(void) summary hentai teeth 2001-07-13 Everybody cracks, stats attack and we rap

(void) summary bendy fun 2001-07-06 Currency, driving, bedbugs and scopeware

(void) summary plenty 2001-06-29 Script tamers, schools, crap after and zero

(void) summary sign stream 2001-06-22 it come with it every day at Oven

(void) summary time cube 2001-06-15 Daynal vs the world, candidates and explosions

(void) summary severed dreams 2001-06-08 Daily format, subs and unsubs, fireworks and drinking

(void) summary thick teens 2001-06-01 Platoon, imaging, guerrillas and funny money

(void) summary pit fiend 2001-05-25 too short! nuclear war, lileks and YALT

(void) summary tureen 2001-05-18 t-shirts, chippies and PG-13 films

(void) summary hurting 2001-05-11 Summaries, veal and hinternets too

(void) summary delve 2001-05-04 Facts, links and guest lists

(void) summary unleavened 2001-04-27 Razors, magick, Rand and drugs

(void) summary den 2001-04-20 Eighties music, speedy cars and food

(void) summary lime 2001-04-13 Instructions, beeps and monkeys

(void) summary eats 2001-04-06 File sharing, burnout and beauty

(void) summary serpents 2001-03-26 Earthlights, tees and OS X

(void) summary sicks 2001-03-19 Memes, lizards, walks and rips

(void) summary fife 2001-03-12 Rudeness, art and creation

for summary in (void) 2001-03-05 Coupons, novels and digests

(void) summary three of some 2001-02-26 Spices, jobs and ads

(void) summary returns 2001-02-19 Ridley, youth and photos

(void) weekly summary, february 2001-02-12 Games, plates and gadgets

This summary is rather longer than usual, so I've organized it somewhat
differently from normal.

Each individual subject line has its own little section, and the sections
are ordered by decreasing message count.  The idea is, when you get bored,
you can be reasonably certain that nothing more interesting than what you've
already read is waiting below, so you can stop reading without worry.

Links of the week:
      http://www.kraftfoods.com/brand_index.cgi?brand_id=38
      http://www.phenry.org/junkdrawer/haiku/
      http://www.bossmonster.com/games/antcity.html
      http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~sokaisha/rabbit/rabbit.htm
      http://www.tourettes.co.uk/

Doom
    Robert Shiels, looking for something to do with his 40MB, asks about
    Doom for the palmpilot[1], which quickly morphed into a discussion of
    the difference, if any, between pr0n and erotica[2][3][4][5][etc], class
    structures, and whether men are apologetic about being men[6], then
    into bad advertisements that will be covered in the 'Shitverts'
    subject.

    54 messages, but it felt like 154

    [1] <004101c124af$6353d640$7fd16496@europe.com>
    [2] <l03130301b79ebbdab6f3@[172.16.0.85]>
    [3] <F2273b6uIU1Gj03oHMw000060d3@hotmail.com>
    [4] <20010814162253.A8956@firedrake.org>
    [5] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108140828090.10241-100000@spruce.he.net>
    [6] <20010815073637.A3707@linux-laptop.barnyard.co.uk>

Shitverts
    ARP was complaining about a commercial for something called 'one2one',
    which he evidentally thinks is American, but I've never heard of them.
    matt jones dislikes the commercial, too[1].  There's discussion of a
    bad Coke commercial, too[2], leading to discussions of how clean
    Manhattan is[3] and whether brands like Coke really need to advertise
    still[4], leading in turn to branding and napster[5] and how funny
    british people talk[6].

    32 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108150328530.4197-100000@spruce.he.net>
    [2] <006701c12581$2ce99900$7fd16496@europe.com>
    [3]
    [4] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108151439030.20032-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [5] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108150806470.8833-100000@spruce.he.net>
    [6] <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010815101107.28196C-100000@tsunami>

I'm {48,n}% gay
    Various people took a test measuring how gay they are and reported
    back to the group.  I think Randal[1] is the gayest straight person
    here (I'm pretty sure he's mentioned Jennifer Connelly before, which I
    take as evidence of straightness).  I couldn't figure out who the
    straightest gay person was; it would have helped if people would have
    reported their actual claimed sexual preference along with their
    scientifically determined gayness quotient.  Next time, people, do it
    right.

    25 messages

    [1] <m1elqkgjrf.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

America's Wildest Chases
    ARP discovered one of the wonders that Fox TV has foisted on the
    American public[1].  This may help explain some of the jokes on the
    Simpson's for people living on the right side of the ocean (that's
    right opposed to left, not right opposed to wrong).

    This morphed into a subthread on America's Wildest Cheeses, which
    aren't actually very wild[2].  And for reasons I'm not at all clear
    about, that morphed further into Michael's plans to make 'eggs with
    salad cream' on Wednesday[3]

    It also, somewhat more reasonably, morphed into a discussion about how
    fast one can drive, both legally and actually, in various
    areas[4][5][6].

    15 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108140922470.829-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <20010814111609.C3713@tunnard.provenart.com>
    [3] <20010814113350.A29704@firedrake.org>
    [4] <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010815112722.28196E-100000@tsunami>
    [5] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108152043490.944-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
    [6] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108162040120.944-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>

void member ark@arksark.org bouncing
    Alex looks for help taking care of bouncing mail[1].  This quickly
    turned into a thread about a state51 social in That London[2].

    14 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108150947130.22243-100000@omni.state51.co.uk>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108152316440.29937-100000@omni.state51.co.uk>

(no subject)
    Movies, starting with _Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back_, with
    mentions of how annoying Jay is[1], two word quotes in other
    Kevin Smith movies, and whether something that short is
    actually a quote[2], a shorter replay of the recent
    liberals-can't-take-a-joke thread[3].  Next up came Nick LaBute's
    ouvre[4], which is rather bleak and misanthropic[5].  

    13 messages.

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108140854540.10241-100000@spruce.he.net>
    [2] <20010814181330.A13992@firedrake.org>
    [3] <5.0.2.1.0.20010814204040.0226a4c0@spruce.he.net>
    [4] ispell says that's not a word, but its only suggestion to fix it
        is 'Louvre', which is obviously wrong.
    [5] <l03130302b79fee6da932@172.16.0.85>

Listing directories
    ARP wants to replicate DOS's "dir *." in unix[1] and is given a
    variety of answers[2][3][4].

    12 messages
    
    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108131613250.21566-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <l03130303b79d9fdcc641@172.16.0.85>
    [3] <20010813162042.A22295@firedrake.org>
    [4] <20010813170908.U16621@elizium.org>

Layering
    Simon Wistow looks for recommendations for new music; he also compares
    faux layered clothes to a variety of other social ills[1].  Celia
    suggested Echolalia[2]; Paul Mason called stuff from 94-96 "old
    stuff"[3], reminding me that I'm getting old.  Other people had other
    suggestions, but based on the names nothing that would appeal much to
    me, so my eyes glazed over.  Don't like that?  Next week, you can do
    the summary.  This group talks way too much.

    11 messages

    [1] <20010811114542.F10837@twoshortplanks.com>
    [2] <B79ADBA2.E2D0%space@shadowgirl.net>
    [3] <l03130300b79acebf0a42@10.0.1.6>

Kitties
    Daynal looks for advice on catching feral kitties[1] and Alaric
    (there's that name again!) gives some[2].  Cat's hearing and good
    names for them (with 's's) is brought up[3].  She ended up deciding to
    feed them where they are, not to catch them, at least for now[4].

    10 messages

    [1] <F886TXvCsLCXPIxkcY40000369f@hotmail.com>
    [2] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108101740230.20602-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>
    [3] <20010810202556.B13768@cloudband.com>
    [4] <F51xUCc62rZBtFk3NNT00004070@hotmail.com>

Summaries and stuff.
    Robert Jones gives a progress report on his overdue summary, which he
    is kind enough not to blame on me by name[1].  Angband is discussed at
    terrifying length[2].

    9 messages

    [1] <20010815100428.A3007@teeny.molehill.org>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161845050.944-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>

Summary Bent? He Fix
    Simon Batistoni summarizes last week[1].  He went day by day and was
    more concise than I'm being.  Maybe I'll provide a summary of the
    summary, too.  Photography and angband were discussed here, too.

    9 messages

    [1] <20010811214416.A25722@tunnard.provenart.com>

textist and asciirotica (was Re: (void) Doom)
    coming out of the Doom thread, this thread actually offered sources
    for dirty stories/textual smut/word porn/written erotica and ascii art
    of all sorts.  Simon Wistow seemed embarassed about knowing about
    http://www.literotica.com but not too embarassed to share with the
    rest of the group[1].  Simon Batistoni offered up www.cliterati.co.uk
    which at leats has a great name[2]

    9 messages

    [1] <20010814173131.X31839@twoshortplanks.com>
    [2] <20010814174554.A7253@tunnard.provenart.com>

A HAL2001 Summary
    Steve Mynott's summary of the HAL2001 conference[1], and for some
    reason which I'm sure is clear to ARP, ARP listening to _Neu!_ by
    Neu![2].

    6 messages.

    I never remembered to follow up to the messages mention Phrack with my
    comment that MaXX's "Vudu malloc tricks", article 8 in this issue, is
    the most impressive hacking article I've ever read; a single-byte '0'
    written out of bounds and replaced after just one function call was
    enough to get a root shell.

    [1] <20010814174902.6761.qmail@squack.COM>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108150949580.17006-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Proposition.
    Daynal shared more spam[1] and various people reported that they, too,
    get spam[2][3].

    6 messages

    [1] <F96hZ26yJKs8TAGUjGn000066bd@hotmail.com>
    [2] <004f01c12566$eab97880$7fd16496@europe.com>
    [3] <20010815102504.A14759@firedrake.org>

Ashley
    Ashley babbled about the name "Ashley", somehow without once
    mentioning Ashley Wilkes, a girl I went to grade school with[1].
    Niklas brought up "Ash" in _Ash_[2], a book that I keep hearing great
    things about but haven't been able to get more than 15 pages into.
    Does it actually turn interesting?.  Some little book by a guy named
    Tolkein or something like that was mentioned, too.

    5 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161147470.2032-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <20010816130216.C5677@cloudband.com>

Bonsai kittens
    Daynal shares spam with us[1] in case we don't get enough, and gets
    Chris to play along[2].

    5 messages

    [1] <F43AX0VQIZv0R1Cm7yv0000234f@hotmail.com>
    [2] <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010815133408.8035C-100000@tsunami>

Coke v Pepsi v *
    In a continuation of last week's soft drinks thread, Matt Jones
    prefers Ben Shaw's Yellow Lemonade[1].  Via Dispepsi, Negativland was
    mentioned[2], including the availability of the forbidden single[3]

    5 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108150636550.8833-100000@spruce.he.net>
    [2] <Pine.BSF.4.21.0108151053230.8066-100000@toxic.magnesium.net>
    [3] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161030180.1203-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Pics{, / Todd}
    I asked ARP what he quoted last week[1]; he answered, but lied[2] and
    made fun of my name[3].

    5 messages

    [1] <20010812112048.A27633@molehill.org>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108131155380.18292-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [3] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108131208090.18532-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Trolling for Liberals
    Oh, this wasn't last week after all.  Simon Wistow shows GLAAD being
    as desiring of controlling what people view and think as the religious
    right has been about gay content in media[1].  Niklas again tries to
    point out to Daynal that she apparently has him killfiled and may not
    realize it[2].

    5 messages

    [1] <20010811185632.C26464@twoshortplanks.com>
    [2] <20010812203354.A17515@cloudband.com>

Ah, Tom :)
    Ian Malpass wrote about the joys of waking up early on those rare
    occasions when one actually does so and feel refreshed[1].  One of
    these joys is being able to listen to Tom Jones.

    4 messages

    [1] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108160838470.8092-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>

Big stuff
    When did the internet get big?  Candy bar URLs[1]?  Antipodean
    telnet[2]? never[3]?  No!  It was when I was finally able to get my
    own copy of Negativland's U2.

    4 messages

    [1] <20010815131430.E3007@teeny.molehill.org>
    [2] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108152116360.29557-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>
    [3] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108160826570.7867-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>

Hello Jones
    ARP shared an Amazon URL for no apparent reason[1] and Lee and Paul
    and ARP talked about stuff I didn't understand at all[2].

    4 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108131321310.19334-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <l03130300b79d971bb500@172.16.0.85>

possible web server attack
     rick (there he is again!) asked about a possible web server
     attack[1].  Nobody recognized it or saw it elsewhere, despite it
     certainly looking like that's what it was.

     4 messages

     [1] <3B77C382.6020660E@cloudband.com>

apropos of metro
    something to do with various Alex McLeans and something called Metro.
    I didn't completely understand this.[1]  Chris Heathcote uses an MUA
    called Microsoft Entourage I've never heard of, even though it's
    apparently up to version 9.0.1.3108.

    3 messages

    [1] <B7996AC4.28958%chrish@unorthodoxstyles.com>

blatant theft from kuro5hin
    layers are destroying programming[1]!  The MCP is worth millions of
    man years![2]

    3 messages

    [1] <20010814121957.A31503@firedrake.org>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108141423460.3915-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

German or Swedish translation from wierd Flash movie?
    Alaric (sure, ARP makes fun of "Todd" when we've got people named
    Alaric around.  Not to mention men named Ashley) looks for a
    translation of http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/[1].
    Niklas supplied part of it at least[2], while rick (rick?  we have a
    rick?  why haven't I ever heard of him before?) gives a
    caffeine-fueled political analysis of the whole thing[3].

    3 messages

    [1] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108111224340.1284-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>
    [2] <20010812024057.C10975@cloudband.com>
    [3] <3B7BACA6.DFCD723@cloudband.com>

Horror
    Aqua, apparently a musical group of some sort, is breaking up[1].  Not
    even Danes care.[2]

    3 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161123480.1796-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <20010816183052.A27709@blade.system-tnt.dk>

Matt's Aqua Page
    ARP shares a link[1].  This time, the subject line has nothing to do
    with the page being linked to, which is evidentally the point[2].  ARP
    is a very strange man.

    3 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161225370.2452-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108161448510.3843-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Obey Giant
    ARP[1] and Steve[2] dis Heidegger.  He was a boozy begger, you know.

    3 messags

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108101014100.27824-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>
    [2] <m2ae14vwhy.fsf@squack.com>

osmosis by nature
    matt jones asks if anybody's seen Osmosis Jones[1], but I don't think
    it opened until today, which might explain why nobody answered 'yes'.

    3 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108140717030.10241-100000@spruce.he.net>

Summary Very Late
    Robert Jones belatedly summarizes...um, two weeks ago[1]?  Ugliness
    ensued, but not in my week, so neener neener, I'm ignoring it.

    3 messages

    [1] <20010815100154.A5044@teeny.molehill.org>

cyberlegs
    matt jones contributes some movies of exoskeletons[1].  ARP wrote more
    than my eyes wanted me to read at the moment.

    2 messages.
    
    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108100558060.21321-100000@spruce.he.net>

dear lord let it not be true
    A sequel to _American Psycho_[1]?  See subject line.  ARP confuses
    Silicon Valley with Silicon Alley.[2]

    2 messages

    [1] <20010815094833.G27124@twoshortplanks.com>
    [2] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108151004370.17202-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

flirtatious juvenile beavis, noi?
    celia passed on more academic research, this bit about gender-based
    differences in email[1].  Well, a brief writeup about academic
    research.

    2 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108151136470.18021-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

shitty cunty bastard fucking arse!
    John McDonnell's trip really wasn't going as planned[1].

    2 messages

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108101908250.667-100000@psyduck.corp.about.com>

5h4k35p3
    ObFridayFlash[1]: http://www.angelfire.com/indie/christx/tftl.html

    1 message.

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108100834190.32249-100000@spruce.he.net>


back in manhattan
    John McDonnell's trip to the big apple didn't go quite as planned[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108102057430.1153-100000@psyduck.corp.about.com>

Calling all Film Buffs ... Review Requested
    Mike Moran reports back on _Possible Worlds_.  It isn't worth
    seeing.[1]

    1 message

    [1] <3B7803E8.1040802@ee.ed.ac.uk>

Citroen Brochure
    ARP shares something about the UK's image of itself in 1958[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108141105370.1769-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Citroen DS
    ARP shares something about germany's image of women in 1959[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108141037570.908-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Cooking with Cheez Whiz
    Unfortunately, the subject line was accurate[1].

    Only 1 message, thank the gods.

    [1] <20010816095034.X27124@twoshortplanks.com>

deja-(void): mental models stuff
    celia follows up on a deja(void) discussion of mental models with a
    cite to actual academic research[1].  Apparently (void)ers don't read
    academic research, or at least don't comment on it.

    Only 1 message.

    [1] <B79981D6.2253%space@shadowgirl.net>

Elimiate Haiku
    ARP passed along a plea to stop writing joke haikus[1]

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108101548260.4010-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

focus groups
    matt jones lets us burn people up[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108150650160.8833-100000@spruce.he.net>

Friends Reunited.
    daynal followed up on her schoolfriends mail volume[1].

    1 message

    [1] <F258v8ppkufGBTuGDYL00006547@hotmail.com>

I bought a CD
    As the subject line says, except that it was Alaric who bought it, not
    me, Alaric being the person who wrote the message[1].  Unmentioned in
    the subject line, he also bought a comic book and he likes plain
    brunettes in skirts, and it's his stepbrother Simon's birthday
    tomorrow, which would have been Monday.  Nobody wished Simon a happy
    birthday.

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.NEB.4.33.0108120108070.8552-100000@love.warhead.org.uk>


Lessing
    Someone named Doris Lessing doesn't like President Mugabe, ARP tells
    us[1].  ARP uses Pine on Linux.  For some reason, I saw him as a
    CyberDog on Mac kinda guy.

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108141127520.1769-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Lots of pictures of a Japanese rabbit with things on its head
    Unlike the 'Doom' or '(no subject)' subjects, this one is accurate.
    Once again, ARP shares a link[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108131346020.19647-100000@moot.vx-labs.org>

Maccy D's Trademarks
    Another accurate subject line, this one from Simon Wistow[1].

    1 message

    [1] <20010816095240.Y27124@twoshortplanks.com>

more travel tales
    John McDonnell finally starts on his way back home, in first class[1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108111202140.945-100000@psyduck.corp.about.com>

New York
    John McDonnell has fun on a bus[1]!

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108101732360.1074-100000@psyduck.corp.about.com>

Nother private mail tragedy
    Daynal shares too much[1].

    1 message

    [1] <F20yXvEbjkyqU7a0xtA000017d6@hotmail.com>

Numberes & quicksort followup
    I follow up on deja(void) discussions of bugs in quiksort and surreal
    numbers[1]

    1 message

    [1] <20010816140223.A12932@molehill.org>

Only iin America...
    Andrew Bowman reports in with mile-high-club rentals and hijacking[1].

    1 message

    [1] <009401c1223f$57eeb3f0$c8fea8c0@ermintrude>

phonebook
    Chris Devers has updated the phonebook at
    http://www.barnyard.co.uk/void/ [1].

    1 message

    [1] <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010813163428.23030A-100000@tsunami>

random blog
    Chris Heathcote showed us a purple ronnie cartoon[1].

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slow list day?
    matt jones googles for 'belt up you cretin warmonger'[1].  I don't know
    why. 

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Something I've Learned
    I ask for a little bit of help[1] and get completely ignored.

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Summary
    Robert Jones apologizes for being late[1].

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ThatPritchard ThatLondon
    Chris Heathcote talks about music, I think[1].

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tourettes
    celia gives an URL that has nothing to do with academic research[1].

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Vietnam
    ARP posts an URL listing all the Americans who died in the Vietnam war
    and the causes of their deaths[1].

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